Job 38 Brace yourself to face the Lord’s questions. Part 2

“Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me”.

So, how wise are your words? Do you ever carry on a conversation when no one else is present? Do you ever hold court and pretend to be the prosecutor or the defense lawyer when a problem flares up with other people? Do you think that your perspective in life is better than another person’s based upon your merit? Do you ever think that God is unjust with events on this Earth?

The following is a list of questions for you to answer. Quite honestly, you and I would have been finished in this exchange after just the first question. But, the wisdom of the Lord is to completely undo a man so that he might be built back perfectly. So, hold your place in this life and see the living God. The place where you are right now standing or sitting:

Consider your greatest problem now. What complaint would you bring before the throne of Heaven? Then, after you have answered this question, read the Lord’s response. After reading this, ask yourself if you think that the God of creation is not aware of your problem.

The Lord asks:

Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding.

Who has laid the measures thereof, if thou know? Or, who has stretched the line upon it?

Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or, who laid the corner stone thereof?”

When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brakes forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, and brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, and said, Hitherto shall thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

Have you commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

that it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment. And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.
Have you entered into the springs of the sea? or have you walked in the search of the depth?
Have the gates of death been opened unto you? or have you seen the doors of the shadow of death?
Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? Declare if you know it all.
Where is the way where light dwells? And as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
That you should take it to the bound thereof, and that you should know the paths to the house thereof?
Do you know it, because you were then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or have you seen the treasures of the hail, which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
By what way is the light parted, which scatters the east wind upon the earth?
Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; to cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man; to satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?

Has the rain a father? or who has begotten the drops of dew?
Out of whose womb came the ice? And the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?
The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.
Can you bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
Can you bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? Or can you guide Arcturus with his sons?
Do you know the ordinances of heaven? Can you set the dominion thereof in the earth?
Can you lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover you?
Canst you send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto you, Here we are?

Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? Or who has given understanding to the heart?

Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven, when the dust grows into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together?
Will you hunt the prey for the lion? Or fill the appetite of the young lions,
When they couch in their dens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?
Who provides for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

The answers for the problems of the Earth is not to be found here….

Looking into eternity,

Bill

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Job 38 Seeing the difference between God and man. Part 1

Job has inquired of God about his suffering. Had anyone before or after Job suffered as much as him? Yes and limitless times over. There is one who suffered more than any man can know. God suffered. Our God understands suffering more than we can fathom.

God created everything and it was good. He created man and said he was very good. Then man sinned and death entered into the world and everything suffered death. EVERYTHING! God, the maker of Heaven and Earth, suffered the loss of all of His creation.

The works that He spoke into being was now corrupted and removed from fellowship from Him. So, you have suffered loss. Do you still possess anything? Have you lost everything? Looking forward to the future, because of man’s sin, God would even suffer the loss of His only begotten Son because of man’s sin.

Before I begin to speak of the words of Job 38 and forward, please consider that our Lord is fully qualified to console you in your time of loss because He lost everything before man ever gained or lost anything. Today, my friend, you may be in the depths of despair. Read over the words beginning in Job 38. See God! After you have seen Him by His works, consider that He is ready and at the right time He will fill you with joy inexpressible and full of glory. The same glory that was set before Jesus.

Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart. Hebrews 12:2-3 (NIV)

Looking into eternity,

Bill

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Job 37:1-24 Elihu’s final thoughts before God speaks

Our God is more patient than we can ever imagine. In this final oration by Elihu, we hear Elihu make several statements about the Almighty God. Most of what he says is “spot on”. But that is not the point.  Job is a righteous man and Elihu is attempting to use the knowledge “about” God to influence Job. Job does not need to know “about” God. He knows God. Do not think that spouting things that God has made known about Himself makes you a judge of other people – especially people who are more mature and closer to God than you are.

If you know something that is true “about” God, make it known in praise to Him. Do not try to manipulate or persuade others to see things your way by invoking generalities about God. This is not helpful to the other person and God may well be offended by the loose usage of knowledge about Him. If this sounds strange to you, just read ahead beginning in chapter 38 and see how God responds to all of these know-it-alls.

Do not merely look at what can be seen about God in this Earth, look where He cannot be seen and see with the eyes of faith. Then, your mouth will be less used and your mind be filled with wonder.

Looking into eternity,

Bill

 

Job 37

“At this also my heart trembles, And leaps from its place. “Listen closely to the thunder of His voice, And the rumbling that goes out from His mouth. “Under the whole heaven He lets it loose, And His lightning to the ends of the earth. “After it, a voice roars; He thunders with His majestic voice, And He does not restrain the lightnings when His voice is heard. “God thunders with His voice wondrously, Doing great things which we cannot comprehend. “For to the snow He says, ‘Fall on the earth,’ And to the downpour and the rain, ‘Be strong.’ “He seals the hand of every man, That all men may know His work. “Then the beast goes into its lair And remains in its den.
9 “Out of the south comes the storm, And out of the north the cold. “From the breath of God ice is made, And the expanse of the waters is frozen. “Also with moisture He loads the thick cloud; He disperses the cloud of His lightning. “It changes direction, turning around by His guidance, That it may do whatever He commands it On the face of the inhabited earth. “Whether for correction, or for His world, Or for lovingkindness, He causes it to happen. “Listen to this, O Job, Stand and consider the wonders of God. “Do you know how God establishes them, And makes the lightning of His cloud to shine? “Do you know about the layers of the thick clouds, The wonders of one perfect in knowledge, You whose garments are hot, When the land is still because of the south wind? “Can you, with Him, spread out the skies, Strong as a molten mirror? “Teach us what we shall say to Him; We cannot arrange our case because of darkness. “Shall it be told Him that I would speak? Or should a man say that he would be swallowed up? “Now men do not see the light which is bright in the skies; But the wind has passed and cleared them. “Out of the north comes golden splendor; Around God is awesome majesty. “The Almighty—we cannot find Him; He is exalted in power And He will not do violence to justice and abundant righteousness. “Therefore men fear Him; He does not regard any who are wise of heart.”

 

 

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Job 36:1-33 Who God is and What God does from the perspective of someone who does not know Him.

Then Elihu continued and said, “Wait for me a little, and I will show you that there is yet more to be said in God’s behalf.  “I will fetch my knowledge from afar, and I will ascribe righteousness to my Maker.”For truly my words are not false; One who is perfect in knowledge is with you. “Behold, God is mighty but does not despise any; He is mighty in strength of understanding.”He does not keep the wicked alive, but gives justice to the afflicted. “He does not withdraw His eyes from the righteous; but with kings on the throne He has seated them forever, and they are exalted.”And if they are bound in fetters, and are caught in the cords of affliction, then He declares to them their work and their transgressions, that they have magnified themselves.”He opens their ear to instruction, and commands that they return from evil.”If they hear and serve Him, they will end their days in prosperity and their years in pleasures. “But if they do not hear, they shall perish by the sword and they will die without knowledge.

Human philosophy has not changed much in the history of the world. It sees there are often many who would tout their imaginations as being profound when it comes to the invisible God.

Is there more to be said in God’s behalf? Where does this information come from and How will he obtain it? Oh, it comes from “afar” and I will go and fetch it. Man thinks of himself as eclectic. He simply believes that truth is “discovered”. Maybe it would be discovered on an adventure or maybe it will be discovered through sitting at the feet of Plato or Freud. Maybe it will come in a dream and I will take it to myself, discover its meaning and then tell the world what God is like.

You may think my words are foolish, but this is the position of both Elihu and many who today spout their earthy wisdom. God, they say, does not despise anyone as He is a God of love. Since He loves good people, He would never allow the wicked to live. With Elihu, God is simple and works in a very simple manner. In Elihu’s world, God will always make man to know his unrighteousness and give them the opportunity to repent. Then, when they do repent, God will always grant them that “they will end their days in prosperity and their years in pleasures”.

Elihu’s thoughts are the voice and reason of ignorance. He like many people we hear on TV and socialize with speak in the same manner. I wish that I had a nickel for every time I have heard that God is a God of “unconditional love”. Thoughts like “God will always rescue you” and “God will always work everything to your good” will be with us until the end. If as Elihu says, God will open the ear for instruction, why would Elihu have to travel far away to learn about God? God is near. But God is not simple and neither is He one to put up with the slander of man who says that He is and does apart from what He has revealed Himself to be.  “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.” Hebrews 1:1-2 (NIV)  Do not look for God afar off, but look for Him in His Son.

Looking into eternity,

Bill

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Job 35:1-16 “Does your life on Earth impact heaven?”

Then Elihu continued and said, do you think this is according to justice? Do you say, ‘my righteousness is more than God’s'?  For you say, ‘What advantage will it be to you? What profit will I have, more than if I had sinned?’ I will answer you, and your friends with you. Look at the heavens and see; and behold the clouds—they are higher than you.  If you have sinned, what do you accomplish against Him? And if your transgressions are many, what do you do to Him?  If you are righteous, what do you give to Him, or what does He receive from your hand? Your wickedness is for a man like yourself, and your righteousness is for a son of man. Because of the multitude of oppressions they cry out; they cry for help because of the arm of the mighty.  But no one says, ‘where is God my Maker, Who gives songs in the night, Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds of the heavens?’ There they cry out, but He does not answer because of the pride of evil men. Surely God will not listen to an empty cry, nor will the Almighty regard it. How much less when you say you do not behold Him, the case is before Him, and you must wait for Him! And now, because He has not visited in His anger, nor has He acknowledged transgression well, so Job opens his mouth emptily; he multiplies words without knowledge.”

“Do you think this is according to justice?  

Job had commented on justice in his case earlier. 19:27 He spoke of the atrocities that had fallen upon him. He was appealing for Justice. Justice would come, but not until it comes for all of those who suffer unjustly and hold on their faith in God. It comes with the death of Christ. They had missed what is probably the greatest testimony of Job. “As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, and at the last He will take His stand on the earth. Even after my skin is destroyed, yet from my flesh I shall see God”; Job 19:25-26

“Do you say, ‘My righteousness is more than God’s'?

Job had already said that earlier in life he put on righteousness like clothing. Job 29:14 He also spoke that which was true in him. Nevertheless the righteous will hold to his way, and he who has clean hands will grow stronger and stronger. What he spoke of foreshadowed the righteousness of Christ that we put on Philippians 3:9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith

“For you say, ‘What advantage will it be to You; what profit will I have, more than if I had sinned?’

Paul told Timothy something that Job knew by faith over 3,000 years before God called him. “…for bodily discipline is only of little profit, but godliness is profitable for all things, since it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come. 1 Timothy 4:8 Job knew, although in his sorrow he wished it could be different, this life holds no hope. The only profit a person can actually gain will be rewarded to him in the next life. Luke 6:23 “But godliness actually is a means of great gain when accompanied by contentment. For we have brought nothing into the world, so we cannot take anything out of it either. 1 Timothy 6:6-7

“Look at the heavens and see; And behold the clouds—they are higher than you. “If you have  sinned, what do you accomplish against Him? And if your transgressions are many, what do you do to Him?

There are those who are deceived into thinking that our creator is some sort of being that immune to emotion. That He is above receiving from us anything. God has spoken on this matter. Moses recorded, And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. Genesis 6:6 When the wickedness of man was upon the Earth, just prior to the great flood, God sorrowed and there was no one to console Him but Himself. This is from the same emotion that Job was experiencing his trial. He had only himself to comfort himself. Furthermore, what do the sins of man do to God? Behold, the LORD’S hand is not so short that it cannot save; Nor is His ear so dull That it cannot hear. But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden His face from you so that He does not hear. Isaiah 59:1-2

“If you are righteous, what do you give to Him, or what does He receive from your hand?  ”Your wickedness is for a man like yourself, and your righteousness is for a son of man. “Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds of the heavens?’ Job would be restored and God would eventually be satisfied with Job’s faithfulness. It is later said concerning the suffering of Jesus, As a result of the anguish of His soul, He will see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many, as He will bear their iniquities. Isaiah 53:11 There is in God the ability to receive or to be blessed by the righteous acts of those on Earth. God senses satisfaction when others act in a manner that is consistent with His nature. At this time Job is giving to God. How about you? What are you giving to God?

Paul commented to the believers in Rome, that while we may be on earth, God receives from us. “Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. Romans 12:1 Your living and holy sacrifice is acceptable or “pleasing” to God who is in Heaven.

Looking into eternity,

Bill

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